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Bountiful restricts hiring of new employees with tatoos

BOUNTIFUL, Utah (ABC 4 News) - thinking of a job with the city of bountiful? have a tattoo you can't cover up? if so, forget it. the city just approved a ban on visible tattoos for all city employees.

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skmatsukawa - 10/5/2008 8:02 PM
This is very arbitrary and by far very biased. Ones persons view is hardly the next persons. It is A=A=A=A and so on. Yes, there are criminals with tattoos and then there are competent, punctual, ideal workers with a bright mind and care for the well being of others who also just so happen to have tattoos. Having a tattoo visible or not doesn't indicate anything on the skill or professionalism of that person. The actions of that person in the work place should. Practical not theory should be considered.

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:21 PM
What is scary is knowing that the Judge, the Cop, the Tax man, the Garbage Collector, and the lifeguard at the public swim pool had to prove his/her loyalty to the puritans by supporting the hatred against colored people clause in their employment agreement. By the way, isn’t a forced agreement that violates the rights of other citizens, against the law and the rights of the employee to be free of coercion and political prejudice? You bet it is. If you’re a good person you better stand-up for your rights, the 2008 council of bountifools is trying to divide and separate good people from good people for no good reason. As the Constitution, and I as a Citizen see it. I have the right to pursue happiness in any way that does not infringe on any ones right to do the same. This includes coloring my skin, enlarging my breasts, tattooing make-up on one eye lid or both, or tattooing Bountifool Councilman on my forehead,. I have the same right to change “MY” appearance any way I choose, the same as you do. Tattoos belong on people, like artificial hair color, eyeliner, lipstick and breast implants do. If it's illegal to see any of these body modifications in public, it’s legal to see them all. You, as a fellow Citizen or Government Official have no right to limit my lawful appearance in public. If my earring poses a job related safety risk, it is reasonable to remove it, if possible, during work duties. Tattoos on the other hand can not interfere with a persons physical duties. Therefore you have NO constitutional right to determine my job skills according to the color of my skin. You will have to pass a total ban on public exposed tattoos before a limited exposure can be illegal. When working for the government I have the right to fill the position regardless of the color of my skin or the shape of my body. (see breast implants). see more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:21 PM
I am a property owner in Bountiful City, therefore I do have the right to scold the Council of Bountifools for misbehaving in this irresponsible and troubling manner. I do not want the city to spend one cent of my tax money to defend this stupid ordinance. If the law has been passed, rescind it immediately. If it’s just in the works, drop the idea now, and take care of our constitution first and then attend to the more important duties that are required to run the city according to our existing laws. You also need to apologize to all of the good people that have tattoos. Good people with tattoos are still good people. Sincerely Kelly Miller, Tattoo Artist

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:20 PM
And by the way, tattoos no more indicate criminal behavior than breast implants indicate promiscuous women, nor does your wearing a neck tie indicate immoral white collar criminal activity on your part. Well maybe neck ties do indicate criminal intent, anyone that willfully violates their public oath to up hold the constitution as it is written on the day of the oath, is a criminal. (see the connection, neck ties are to white collar crime, as street crime is to tattoos). The Constitution strictly forbids the creation of a second class Citizen by any branch of Government, not even the righteous Bountiful city Council has the authority to do that. Tattoos are not a problem. If the Citizens of Bountiful don’t feel comfortable seeing tattoos on their employees it is the councilmens job to delegate the funds needed to purchase the uniform and establish the psychological evaluation that gives the protection and security the citizens need. Not hiring a person because of sever antisocial tendencies is not against the law, (unless it’s a disability) nor should it be. Expecting an Employee to cover (with cloths) antisocial tattoos is not entirely unreasonable either, but ostracizing a citizen for any non criminal coloring of their skin is. The creation of a second class citizen is not constitutional, or the friendly way I want Bountiful city to conduct business with my money. It is absolutely unconstitutional for Bountiful City to limit any ones Life, liberty or their pursuit of happiness. see more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:20 PM
What is scary is knowing that the Judge, the Cop, the Tax man, the Garbage Collector, and the lifeguard at the public swim pool had to prove his/her loyalty to the puritans by supporting the hatred against colored people clause in their employment agreement. By the way, isn’t a forced agreement that violates the rights of other citizens, against the law and the rights of the employee to be free of coercion and political prejudice? You bet it is. If you’re a good person you better stand-up for your rights, the 2008 council of bountifools is trying to divide and separate good people from good people for no good reason. As the Constitution, and I as a Citizen see it. I have the right to pursue happiness in any way that does not infringe on any ones right to do the same. This includes coloring my skin, enlarging my breasts, tattooing make-up on one eye lid or both, or tattooing Bountifool Councilman on my forehead,. I have the same right to change “MY” appearance any way I choose, the same as you do. Tattoos belong on people, like artificial hair color, eyeliner, lipstick and breast implants do. If it's illegal to see any of these body modifications in public, it’s legal to see them all. You, as a fellow Citizen or Government Official have no right to limit my lawful appearance in public. If my earring poses a job related safety risk, it is reasonable to remove it, if possible, during work duties. Tattoos on the other hand can not interfere with a persons physical duties. Therefore you have NO constitutional right to determine my job skills according to the color of my skin. You will have to pass a total ban on public exposed tattoos before a limited exposure can be illegal. When working for the government I have the right to fill the position regardless of the color of my skin or the shape of my body. (see breast implants). see more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:19 PM
To those Councilmen that created this community wide display of Prejudice and Bigotry shame on you, you have dishonored the public position you have been intrusted to uphold. As far as I can tell, you have broken your oath to uphold the Utah State and US Constitution. You should be ashamed of yourself and resign, or be impeached. As a Councilman you should be standing, for not only my right to free speech, but my right to the same liberty as you have, including the right to work for the people. Do I now not qualify to run for an elected position in Bountiful? You bet I do, I have the same right, as every other qualified person does, to enjoy a tax payer funded job position. It is not just a job you’re denying me, you’re also denying me the health, retirement and other social benefits (read constitutional rights) that come with the right of every tax payer to be represented in a fair and impartial manner, including the right to due process and the right to the jobs created by and paid for with my taxes paid. My Citizens right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness guarantees my right to any government job I’m qualified for. Citizen rights are color-blind, just as my right to Justice is. To prove my point. When I take the city to Court, I will not have to hide the color in my skin to have access to Justice. Citizens have no logical reason to fear tattooed people. Rightfully applied Due process will weed out all thoughs that are socially unfit to represent the public in public. So please don’t support those that are trying to scare the public with the infamous swastika on the forehead scare tactic. Swastika's on foreheads are foolish, not scary. Using this type of hype to justify denying a person with a butterfly on their wrist from making a living wage from the parks department is absolutly asinine. see more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:18 PM
To those Councilmen that created this community wide display of Prejudice and Bigotry shame on you, you have dishonored the public position you have been intrusted to uphold. As far as I can tell, you have broken your oath to uphold the Utah State and US Constitution. You should be ashamed of yourself and resign, or be impeached. As a Councilman you should be standing, for not only my right to free speech, but my right to the same liberty as you have, including the right to work for the people. Do I now not qualify to run for an elected position in Bountiful? You bet I do, I have the same right, as every other qualified person does, to enjoy a tax payer funded job position. It is not just a job you’re denying me, you’re also denying me the health, retirement and other social benefits (read constitutional rights) that come with the right of every tax payer to be represented in a fair and impartial manner, including the right to due process and the right to the jobs created by and paid for with my taxes paid. My Citizens right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness guarantees my right to any government job I’m qualified for. Citizen rights are color-blind, just as my right to Justice is. To prove my point. When I take the city to Court, I will not have to hide the color in my skin to have access to Justice. Citizens have no logical reason to fear tattooed people. Rightfully applied Due process will weed out all thoughs that are socially unfit to represent the public in public. So please don’t support those that are trying to scare the public with the infamous swastika on the forehead scare tactic. Swastika's on foreheads are foolish, not scary. Using this type of hype to justify denying a person with a butterfly on their wrist from making a living wage from the parks department is absolutly asinine. See more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:17 PM
Dear Councilmen, Fear is what you feel when you don’t know me. It’s natural for introverts and paranoids to feel that way. Prejudice is what you feel when you see that I’m different than you, but won’t accept the fact that I‘m as good as you. Prejudice is learned behavior and is not natural to feel this way. Hate is the emotion you feel when you accept prejudice. You’ll know you hate me, when you support segregating me from the masses with rules that only apply to me because of how I “look”. Hate through Prejudice is the cancer of intellect, and can easily become infectious to those that have the same spiritual mind set. Bigotry is the exposed behavior of those that retain and live by any of those hateful emotions. Bigotry creates ostracism for no good reason. Bigotry on your part creates distrust of you on my part. Which is totally justified. Only fools knowingly trust a bigot. Suppression is what happens when good men do nothing about this type of evilness. Retaliation is what you can expect ,when you suppress and separate Grand Fathers from Mothers, and Brothers from neighbors, and Heros from those protected, for no good reason. To the Bountiful Councilmen I must ask. What in heavens name are you trying to do? I’m thinking you’re intensionally creating a public nuisance, that is not really here. You may even be committing a hate crime, simply by creating creating a crime of hatred and mistrust of 30% of our population. (Somebody recently said 30% of the US population is now tattooed) Even if your actions are constitutional, (and they’re not) you are supporting hatred for no morally sound reason. If I were your Bishop you would be excommunicated. See more comments for rest

kellytattoo - 8/19/2008 3:17 PM
Dear Councilmen, Fear is what you feel when you don’t know me. It’s natural for introverts and paranoids to feel that way. Prejudice is what you feel when you see that I’m different than you, but won’t accept the fact that I‘m as good as you. Prejudice is learned behavior and is not natural to feel this way. Hate is the emotion you feel when you accept prejudice. You’ll know you hate me, when you support segregating me from the masses with rules that only apply to me because of how I “look”. Hate through Prejudice is the cancer of intellect, and can easily become infectious to those that have the same spiritual mind set. Bigotry is the exposed behavior of those that retain and live by any of those hateful emotions. Bigotry creates ostracism for no good reason. Bigotry on your part creates distrust of you on my part. Which is totally justified. Only fools knowingly trust a bigot. Suppression is what happens when good men do nothing about this type of evilness. Retaliation is what you can expect ,when you suppress and separate Grand Fathers from Mothers, and Brothers from neighbors, and Heros from those protected, for no good reason. To the Bountiful Councilmen I must ask. What in heavens name are you trying to do? I’m thinking you’re intensionally creating a public nuisance, that is not really here. You may even be committing a hate crime, simply by creating creating a crime of hatred and mistrust of 30% of our population. (Somebody recently said 30% of the US population is now tattooed) Even if your actions are constitutional, (and they’re not) you are supporting hatred for no morally sound reason. If I were your Bishop you would be excommunicated. See more comments for rest

punkntats - 8/18/2008 10:39 AM
Discrimination is what has taken place here. Just cause someone has ink on their skin deems them a bad image for a company. WRONG! This is suppose to be the country that everyone comes to for chances and opportunities. Worst part of all this is that this is a city job we are talking about. Not a Corporate collared buttoned up tie job. Which I can semi understand why a more professional look would be required. But if someone is fixing your roads you drive on that has tattoos vs. another person that doesn't.... What’s the difference? Absolutely nothing! The stereotypes that carry along with tattoos and the images people get of tattooed people are very wrong and completely taken out of context. For some people.. It’s a life style. Having ink on you that represents who you are .. The passions you have or different parts of your life. Not all people who have ink are criminals, Thugs, ex-cons or your run of the mill hoodlum. I think people fear change and will go to the extreme to keep things standing still that in their mind is "standard Tradition" I believe this is right along the side of racism, Judgment from the exterior. Little by little I hope people like Fred Moss will be out of the drivers seat. -Adam , Charlotte,NC



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