Where can't you carry a gun in Utah?


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Updated: 7/27/2012 11:11 am | Published: 7/26/2012 7:10 pm
Reported by: Brian Carlson
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) – ABC 4 is learning that gun sales in Utah have increased since the Colorado theatre shooting. Concealed weapon permit requests have also gone up. That means more people want access to guns, and the right to conceal and carry them. But, there are a lot of places in Utah you can't carry a gun. Probably more than you may think.

If you're thinking about buying a gun to protect yourself the next time you're out in public, you may be surprised you can't take it everywhere you want. According to Utah law, any secure area where the property owner doesn't want guns and posts a sign - is off limits, like restricted areas in movie theatres. If you are carrying a firearm in a business where a "no guns" sign is posted, you must leave the premises if asked or you could be charged with trespassing.

You can't take a gun on a plane but you can have it in your checked luggage.

"It needs to be unloaded, it needs to be in a locked hard sided case, and it needs to be declared to the airline," said Vera Adams, TSA Federal Security Director, State of Utah.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn't allow guns in any of its temples or meeting houses. And you can't take a gun into federal buildings like the post office, or any courtroom. Mental health facilities are off limits, as well as correctional facilities. UTA only allows guns onto TRAX trains and buses for concealed weapons permit carriers, the same goes for University Hospital. Permit carriers can take guns into Utah schools, but students can’t.

Some gun owners understand the reason for restrictions.

"Others like federal buildings things like that, courtroom obviously," said Tom Anderson, gun owner.

But other owners believe these gun restrictions don't work.

"You see people getting hurt in places where you're not supposed to have guns," said one gun store customer.

"It's over the top, I mean, most people who are legal gun owners aren't going to break the law," said Oscar Andrews, gun owner.

The above list is by no means comprehensive. Utah law allows any private home or business the option of banning guns. If you want to know more details where you can and can't carry a gun ask to talk to concealed weapons class instructor.
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ABC4NEWS - 7/27/2012 11:01 AM
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hammerheadfl, we talked to an expert and consulted the state government for this story. Per the Utah Department of Public Safety: "The concealed firearm permit allows an individual to carry a firearm fully loaded and concealed. The permit also allows an individual to carry a firearm into public schools. Permit holders can not carry a firearm into federal or state restricted areas i.e. any airport secured area, federal facilities, courts, correctional & mental health facilities, law enforcement secured areas, a house of worship or private residence where notice given and/or posted, any secured area in which firearms are prohibited and notice posted, or otherwise prohibited by state of federal law." http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQ.html. Yes, a sign in and of itself at a business does not have the "force of law" but are the rules for that business which can be enforced and that does have the force of law. With that in mind, what we said was correct. We will add clarification to the story.

TigDooo - 7/27/2012 8:54 AM
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lol, I dont care if a stupid sign says I cant carry. Its concealed so who is gonna know? Id much rather be tried by 9 than carried by six! www.Anon-Webs.tk

hammerheadfl - 7/27/2012 5:23 AM
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If you have any questions regarding the CWP law or training contact www.e2c.us or 1-866-371-6111 and the Instructors at Equip 2 Conceal will be happy to help you.

hammerheadfl - 7/27/2012 5:22 AM
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If you have any questions regarding the CWP law or training contact www.e2c.us or 1-866-371-6111 and the Instructors at Equip 2 Conceal will be happy to help you.

underratedf00l - 7/26/2012 11:28 PM
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ABC4, you really should take your own advice: talk to an expert before reporting such drivel. You say that theaters are "secure areas"? They are not. Secure areas are defined in Utah's law, under section 76-8-311.1(2), with this little nugget: "(ii) A "secure area" may not include any area normally accessible to the public." ... that was oops number 1 for you. Second, you say that UTA only allows "guns onto TRAX trains and buses for concealed weapons carriers...". This is only partially correct. The firearm does NOT need to be concealed, but the carrier must have a concealed firearms permit to carry on a bus or TRAX. Third, you say "Utah law allows any private home or business the option of banning guns." This is only partially correct as well. A business can chose to put up a "no guns" sign, which carries no weight of law. The business can chose to not provide "service" to anyone they choose (such as someone carrying a firearm), and they can also ask the carrier to leave. Should the carrier refuse, they might be charged with trespassing. However, the "no guns" law itself has no force of law behind them. Private residences, however, DO have the force of law behind being able to "ban guns". If a someone carries a firearm in to a home that has notified the individual of the ban on firearms, then it is an "infraction" level offense (ie, a traffic ticket), as defined by 76-10-530(6). Please, for God's sake: do just a little bit of research before you spout off inaccuracies, because you only make yourselves look foolish. Should you wish to do so, you're welcome to hire me as your "expert." I'll work cheap.

KDC123 - 7/26/2012 9:22 PM
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Every thing in this article is false. Just horrible reporting. The only place in Utah that you can not carry regardless of permit is a court house, fed building, airport, lds church, private residence if not wanted by owner. Everywhere else that post a no weapons sign can only make you leave if caught carrying.
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