Mom calls son's principal a bully, district defends principal's actions


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Updated: 10/25/2012 7:44 pm | Published: 10/24/2012 8:09 pm
Reported by: Noah Bond
"I feel like she (Quail Hollow Elementary School Principal Denise Orme) has overstepped her boundaries and she is punishing the mother of the child that is being bullied and this situation should have been brought to an end last year" - Jamie Cavazos
SANDY, Utah (ABC 4 News) - An ABC 4 report is prompting Canyon's School District Chief Civil Rights Officer Melissa Flores to contact a mother banned from her son's school after she confronted his alleged bully.

A bully at Quail Hollow Elementary punched Jamie Cavazos' son in the face last April giving him a black eye.  Cavazos demanded principal Denise Orme suspend the bully citing the school's zero tolerance bully policy.  "I was told by Denise (Quail Hollow Principal) that suspension doesn't work with bullying," Cavazo recalled.

So when this upset mother approached her son's alleged bully in a school hallway, "I saw the bully and told him to leave my son alone. You need to pick on somebody your own size.  Stay away from my son."

Cavazo later stepped above the principal and contacted the Canyon's School District Superintendent.  She recalls her conversation.  "I was the one that went to them and told them that I had done that (talked with the alleged bully in the  hallway) and I received a letter from Denise (the principal and Quail Hollow Elementary) about a week later banning me from the school," recalled Cavazo.

Her ban was put in place last April and was extended twice. Once in August for missing a meeting with the principal and again in September when Cavazo responded to a request to volunteer at the school.  She says she checked in at the front desk and put on a name badge. 

The school reports Cavazo approached the alleged bully on the playground and threatened him a second time. 

Cavazo says this is not true.

Canyon's spokesman Jeff Haney says Cavazo's actions will not be tolerated because she threatened a student.

"Are you a violent person?" asked ABC 4's Noah Bond. "No," responded Cavazo. "Have you ever threatened a child?" asked Bond. Cavazo,"No I have not."

Bond brought this information to Canyons School District, "I asked Jamie I said, 'Jamie are you a violent person? Would you assault a child? She said no.'" Spokesman Jeff Haney responded, "My understanding of this issue is that she approached a child and she threatened him."
"My understanding of this issue is that she approached a child and she threatened him-" Jeff Haney, Canyon's School District Spokesman
The Canyon's School District stresses it will no tolerate parents threatening students and it considers what Jamie did to be a real threat.

Jamie says if this alleged bully punches her child in the face again, she's going to talk with him again. This could be a problem because this is the very action the school considers to be threatening.

Our reports prompted the District's Chief Civil Rights Officer for the Canyon's School District, Melissa Flores to contact Cavazos.

Cavazos says she wants to volunteer at her child's school without an escort.

Cavazos revealed a letter the school mailed to her.  A portion of it reads:

The effect of your behavior at Quail Hollow Elementary is to undermine the administration's responsibility to ensure the safety of the students while at school. Poor behavior-- on the part of the students or parents-- impacts learning and cannot be tolerated in the school setting. We will revisit these restrictions at the end of the year to see if these restrictions can be lifted or must remain in place. If you violate the terms of this letter, the school administration will immediately call the police and we will move to formally restrict your access through a formal Trespass Notice. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me at the following number (omitted) or at the following email address (omitted).

Cavazos says Orme and Flores refused to return her calls before this report, but is grateful for a call from Florez on the day this report was broadcast on ABC 4 News.

Flores says she talked with Cavazos on the phone about a weeks ago. Cavazos says this is not true. She says she never talked with Flores.

Cavazos' total punishment for talking with her son's alleged bully is one year of restricted access to her son's school because, according to the school, she has repeatedly disrespected the authority of Quail Hollow Principal Orme.





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Nick C - 10/26/2012 1:25 PM
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Heres the problem, if your kid is punching and bullying my kid you already f'ed up! Sick of lazy ass parents raising bullies and then acting like somethings wrong when they get there come uppens ! If your irresponsible enough to have a bully for a kid then you didn't protect him from the A#@whopping he deserves. Eye for an eye ,yea when it comes to my child the rules change! You make a little monster and let him/her loose in this world then expect them to be treated like angels, no way! Obviously the bullies parents weren't doing their job in the first place so good for her for having the maturity and strength not to beat the crap out of the little turd!!

JakeTaylor - 10/25/2012 11:03 PM
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Why are we defending this woman? Another students parent approaching my child without me being present is a serious threat in my mind. If my child is bullying other students I would handle the re-education on how to treat others. An adult using fear tactics on a child is UNACCEPTABLE. Adults know better than to use this type of behavior. I would speak with the students parents first and never the child alone!

Zoobie - 10/25/2012 4:50 PM
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The child was punched in the face! That is assault not bullying. The state is all about there no bullying zones but they do very little to reprimand the kids that are at fault. I think in bullying cases the DCFS should also be notified since like 90% of child violence starts at home. The principle is a joke..

angelb8632 - 10/25/2012 2:15 PM
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I get so mad with how the schools deal with bullying . why is it that they are super strict with stupid stuff like kids playing kissing tag or having a table knife from moving in your car but they don't do anything to brats who pick on other kids making their lives miserable . I would have said something to the kid who beat up my kid to and the school could can do something like make the bullies sit in the office all day doing their work were someone can keep on eye on them. punish the bully not the victim.

Vegaia - 10/25/2012 9:07 AM
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A high school in Appleton, Wisconsin tried an experiment under the enlightened guidance of their principal, LuAnn Coenen. She wanted to see if she could positively affect the fighting, weapons-carrying and general lack of focus and discipline in the school by changing the food the kids ate. Vending machines were replaced with water coolers; hamburgers and French fries were taken off the menu and replaced with fresh vegetables and fruit, whole grain breads and a salad bar. With the departure of junk food, she also saw the departure of vandalism, litter and the need for police patrolling her hallways. The students were calm, socially engaged and focused on their schoolwork. Problems were minimal. And all Ms. Coenen did was change the menu! Please watch "Forks Over Knives" for FREE to learn more about the implications of a meat-based diet vs a plant-based diet. Go to http://www.hulu.com/watch/279734 and do yourself and your family a favor!

karma35 - 10/25/2012 9:06 AM
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It's sad to hear that this mother felt like she had to take things into her own hands. The school needs to take some responsibility for this. It also doesn't sound like she threatned the bully, but told him that there was someone paying attention and his actions wouldn't be tollerated any longer. It would be nice for the school, who has a bullying policy, to have taken this role. There has to be another solution, other than banning Mrs. Morgan, to the principals hurt pride and feelings of shame for not protecting Mrs. Morgan's child. I hope this is resolved soon and Mrs. Morgan is allowed to actively participate in her child's education.

matty - 10/24/2012 10:59 PM
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So basically, just another day of brainless school administrators. Once schools starting adopting all these "zero tolerance" policies, admins quit thinking.

MariposaX - 10/24/2012 10:53 PM
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"The effect of your behavior at Quail Hollow Elementary is to undermine the administration's responsibility to ensure the safety of the students while at school. Poor behavior-- on the part of the students or parents-- impacts learning and cannot be tolerated in the school setting." Schools have used this exact wording for years to discredit meaningful involvement by parents. It creates an imbalance of power where the school essentially bullies a parent that wants to be involved. Don't get me wrong, I feel this mother was out of line in approaching the child instead of his parents. But if she had threatened him ,that is a crime under at least two different Utah laws ... the 'Dangerous/disruptive behavior in school' law or the 'Illegal act in school' law ... and this school needs to immediately file criminal charges. As far as threatening her under the 'Trespassing on school grounds' law is concerned, this is another hollow attempt to bully her into silence so they don't have to address bullying in their school. That law specifically reads that the person can't be on school grounds while not having school business - making sure one's child is safe from abuse is most certainly valid school business. The school's next move is likely to start blaming the bullied child and documenting 'behavior concerns'. Or they'll have the mother arrested and offer to have the charges dropped if she agrees to take her son out and home school him. That would be the very bullying schools profess to want to eliminate. Let's consider the school's own words on ensuring student safety. This mother's child was physically attacked. Where was their commitment to ensuring his safety? How did that bully's violence affect the learning environment and what's been done to show it will not be tolerated?

MariposaX - 10/24/2012 10:24 PM
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1. "Pick on someone your own size" says the adult to the smalll child. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in that statment? 2. If the parent had actually threatened the child, not merely appear to be threatening him, why didn't the school immediately phone the police to have the mother charged under the 'Dangerous and Disruptive Behavior in School' law? I have that number somewhere if you'd like ... I'd love hearing the school's/district's answer as to why they didn't have the mother arrested, as is their public safety obligation. 3. Any school district that lies in official investigations, as Canyons has, will think nothing of lying to a reporter so they can't be held accountable. They'll tell you what they want you to believe and then leave it to you to prove they've been less than honest.

Kongotcb - 10/24/2012 10:00 PM
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There is a break in communication due to the principal. teachers like that are the one who encourage students to be bullies. As parents we have the right to protect our children from been bullied when teachers sit idle not trying to protect other children.Mrs Flores you are a bad example of what a good principal should be.STOP BULLYING IN YOUR SCHOOL or find a nother profession. Put yourself in Mrs Morgan shoes
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