ABC 4 gun story goes viral, sparking debate vigilante justice


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Updated: 7/27/2012 9:53 pm | Published: 7/27/2012 6:34 pm
Reported by: Brian Carlson
SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A story ABC 4 did back in April is now making national headlines. It’s all about how a man with a concealed weapon stops a knife attack. It’s spurring debate over gun control and vigilante justice, and has been views several hundred thousand times.

It's a day witnesses may never forget.

"He just started stabbing people and yelling," said Dorothy Espinoza, witness.

Back in April, a man with a knife stabbed two people outside the Smith's grocery store near 500 East and 400 South in Salt Lake City. But a regular citizen armed with a gun, stopped the man before he could find another victim.

"A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him," said Espinoza.

Although it happened three months ago, Friday, both the Drudge Report and nbcnews.com posted links of ABC 4’s online story to their websites. As of Friday evening it's received over 320,000 hits, and hundreds of comments.

One reader writes -

“Finally, some coverage of an armed citizen, protecting the people of the store, the customers and even the attacker in a way that is totally legal, and legitimate.”

And another –

“A baseball bat would have worked just as well.”

It's spurring more debate over the right to carry guns, and if regular citizens should take the law into their own hands. Gun lobbyist Clark Aposhian told ABC 4 he wishes more people would step up like this.

"When violent crime occurs law enforcement is not there to help you, and you need to act within seconds," said Clark Aposhian, gun lobbyist.

According to a national self defense survey, a citizen with a gun stops crime like this in America roughly 2.5 million times a year.

But if you ask gun control advocate Steve Gunn –

"Society is better off not allowing the carrying of concealed weapons," said Steve Gunn, gun control advocate.

Although an average citizen may have saved lives at the Smith's grocery store, Gunn said guns don't make America safer.

"There are many circumstances where guns act as an accelerant, they cause people to become more belligerent, more aggressive when someone has a gun," he said.
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Louis - 4/27/2013 1:06 PM
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Sadly the very people who propose more gun restrictions end up being the victims of gun violence. Mexico is awash with gun violence. Only the Police and Criminals have guns and guess what the Police are now afraid to go in areas. The citizens are captive to the criminals. Our country was founded with the idea that every citizen should be armed so that there was no need for any standing army. It helped our national security in WW-II as well, it was that very thought that kept the Japanese from invasion. They feared Americans who were well armed, they did NOT fear our military. Imagine now that our military is being gutted what other nations or radicals think? It is more important than ever that Americans be properly Armed and trained to safely use guns. You can not expect people to rely on the government. Even the government says so on their own web sites. They tell you to prepare for national disasters or man made disasters for 30 days when the absence of any government officials or local police or other officials may be necessary. Why would guns be any different? They certainly helped during the LA Riots didn't they.

superman - 7/30/2012 7:23 AM
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ha ha FooMachew... Just let the police do it? Have you spent much time in Mexico? If you make gun laws stricter, the criminals will have a hay-day with it, and their won't be enough police to slow them down. Research it, the countries with the most strict gun laws, also have the most robberies, and homicides. BAD GUYS WILL FIND A WAY TO GET GUNS!

FooMachew - 7/28/2012 11:08 PM
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Oh great, now everyone's getting the idea that they can just willy-nilly carry a gun around and protect themselves/others whenever they need to. Just let the police do it people. Relying on them provides a buffer of reaction time, and with cops having easy to identify uniforms, criminals at least have a sporting chance. If those misguided souls can't feel safe doing what's just in their nature, they'll be too afraid to do it, and that means good officers will lose jobs due to the lack of demand! That's not good, right? :P

superman - 7/28/2012 4:35 PM
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This is an issue of utmost importance in our day. The answer to this question is very simple. ***IF WE MAKE GUNS ILLEGAL, ALL THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE GOOD GUYS WONT HAVE ANY GUNS, ONLY THE BAD GUYS WILL!!!

KariER - 7/28/2012 12:59 PM
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I posted the original story to facebook back in April and again last week right after the shootings in Colorado. I am glad it has gotten more coverage. A responsible gun owner with a CC permit may have saved lives in both these instances.

jack burton - 7/28/2012 12:06 PM
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The reporter on this piece is a damn poor reporter. Self defense, even for others, is neither (lawless) vigilantism or "taking the law into your own hands." It is working exactly as the legal system allows, and within the legal system. Can you imagine a news story about a woman defending herself against a rapist by kicking him in the gonads being described as a vigilante and taking the law into her own hands?

Joseph - 7/28/2012 8:50 AM
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The anti-gun crowd love to stick their heads in the sand concerning the real facts about guns stopping violence. They trick others to do the very same thing. The FBI has shown that cities having laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons, have less violent crimes. Cities such as Washington DC, Chicago, New York among others, with strict anti-gun laws, have the opposite. Criminals don't waltz into gun shops to buy guns, because they have to fill out Federal forms and have a background check run on them. People like Gunn often distort statistics to bolster their claims, while ignoring any that outright prove the opposite of what they say. There are many such as Gunn who fall under the curse of Hoplophobia, which is a medical term for the morbid fear of guns. Those afflicted, let their unreasoning paranoia guide their beliefs. I was in southern Mobile county in Alabama during and after Katrina. There was no power for miles around, so it was quite dark. If you tried 911, you got a recording. You were completely on your own. There was no one you could call to help you. If you owned a gun, you slept easier. The sad thing about hoplophobia, is most often their utter blindness toward reality. Criminals are evil by nature. They are opportunistic. Some naively believe that taking guns away will make make violence magically disappear. Statistics based on reality, prove the opposite. Some even go so far as to believe that the military ought to surrender their weapons, as if peace would break out all over the world. In 2006, during an interview on Hannity & Colmes, a San Francisco Supervisor Gerardo Compos Sandoval, said that "I don't think we should have a military." He then claimed that local police and firefighters should be responsible for national defense. Even the ubber-left leaning Colmes argued him down. Hoplophobics, or those who want to live under police states, shout the loudest for seizure of guns.

AggregatVier - 7/27/2012 11:31 PM
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This story had been on NBC.com. It didn't fit their agenda so they wiped it off their website. It's not the first time this type of story has been actively supressed by them.

jonw0 - 7/27/2012 7:47 PM
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We should as a nation have the right to vote liberalistic, Constitution hating people off this island.

matty - 7/27/2012 7:28 PM
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Steve Gunn, the anti-gun advocate. Now that's funny. The guys a koolaide drinking tool nonetheless.
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