"Big Love" episode part of larger debate over Hollywood and religion


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Updated: 3/17/2009 10:31 am | Published: 3/16/2009 10:57 pm
Reported by: Brent Hunsaker
Big Love (HBO)
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SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - Since HBO aired the episode of “Big Love” depicting temple ceremonies of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, people are sharing with us their reviews.  Most of the following comments were posted by people identifying themselves as “non-Mormon.”

“This episode was an unequivocal declaration of war by Hollywood against the Mormon Church, and its all about Prop 8.”

“After living in Utah for almost 20 years, then watching the Big Love series on HBO, I've finally started to like Mormons a little.”

“It did not come across as distasteful or anti-Mormon, but I do believe that depicting a scene of sacred religious practices in this way was not the kindest of actions.”

(You can read the comments in their entirety in my abc4.com blog.  And don’t forget to add your own observations to our discussion.)

People of other faiths note they’ve been targets of Hollywood as well.  They tend to see the context of the “Big Love” controversy in the larger question of how Hollywood treats religion.

Catholics certainly have a grievance against “The Da Vinci Code” and are sure to be equally upset when “Angels and Demons” – another Ron Howard movie adaptation of a Dan Brown book – is released this spring.

The Reverend Michael Mayor of All Saints Episcopal Church on Foothill Drive watched the Sunday night episode of “Big Love”.  He believes the scenes of the L.D.S. temple rites may have been mechanically correct, but were spiritually void.  “That’s what the word profane means - taking something sacred and reducing it."  Reverend Mayor explained,   "It’s not about intention.  It’s about stripping away the sacred from something and leaving it ordinary.”

The Reverend said even the apology issued by HBO showed that Hollywood doesn’t get it.  “I have no reason to believe it wasn’t a genuine, heart-felt apology.  They said they’re sorry, ‘We know this is a concern, we’re going to make sure it’s absolutely accurate.’  That’s not the point!”  He said every faith tradition has rituals.  The meaning and purpose of those rituals are lost on the uninitiated.  “They think that if they do an accurate, mechanical portrayal - that’s good enough.  But you don’t get to the mystery simply through the mechanics.”

Reverend Mayor agrees with others who say Hollywood is basically amoral.  “Ultimately, they’re just a business and they’re just trying to figure out what’s going to sell.”  The major studios make what they think will make them money.

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Learner - 3/18/2009 11:00 PM
Sorry, I made a mistake in one of my sentences. (As far as degrading the Mormon church I don't think they have done any such thing. I say this mainly because the family in Big Love is especially Mormon with the exception of plural marriage.) I meant to say ESSENTIALLY, not especially. I'm sorry if there was any confusion.

Learner - 3/18/2009 10:57 PM
To everyone, First of all I would just like to salute Tom Hanks, HBO, and the rest that are involved with bringing us Big Love. I think that it is an amazing show, and really shows how much people who choose to lead a polygamist life have to go through for their faith. I don't know if many of you know, but almost all of what happens in Big Love comes from really events. People that are in plural marriages send in things that have happened in their families, or things that they know have taken place in other groups. And if you didn't know the Green's are actually based of the Labaran's (look them up if you don't know who they are). As far as degrading the Mormon church I don't think they have done any such thing. I say this mainly because the family in Big Love is especially Mormon with the exception of plural marriage. Also I will never understand how LDS Mormons can act the way they do towards polygamists when the ROOT of their entire religion is based off polygamy. As far as any religion I believe that polygamists have it the hardest because there religion is frowned upon by so many. When it comes to marriage, I believe that anyone should be allowed to marry whatever their sexual preference. If everyone was created by (God) then shouldn't everyone have the same rights? So in leaving you I say; don't be so quick to judge others' lifestyles unless you have lived it yourself.

Omnikrang - 3/18/2009 2:40 PM
Charles. seriously you mock Guitar on his time spent on this issue yet I see more posts from you than any other people.... Need I say more?

Miss Diana - 3/18/2009 9:56 AM
Dragonfly stated: "...but what happens when (snip) a 12 year old decides she wants to be with a man who is 25...is that going to jive and who will be able to stop it. It's about standing up now and drawing a line on what's RIGHT and what's WRONG!!!" Joseph Smith was married to two 14 year old girls. He was caught WITH one of them (implication intended) before the official "prophesy" to instigate plural marriage. He was SUPPOSSED to be taking care of the girl as a daughter. Instead, he took all of her money, and married her behind his (first) wife's back. When the member who found him with the girl criticized him he was excommunicated. Now...how is it that church leaders are exempt from these classifications of "right" and "wrong"? Or is it OK for 14 year olds, just not 12 year olds, to marry whomever they please? And no, before you say it, it was not widely accepted to marry at 14 years old at that time. Look at the census records.

TerryB - 3/18/2009 9:17 AM
Marriage should be open to everyone? Will the day come, perhaps in 2012 that a man will be allowed to be married to more than one man? Or a woman to more than one woman? What will the politically correct term for that be? Polyhomosexuality? Gaypluralmarriage? This should be fun.

bedeheathe - 3/18/2009 7:50 AM
Maybe now LDS might understand why people are upset when you baptize their deceased family members.

CharlesR1980 - 3/17/2009 10:36 PM
Dragon, I didn't see your comment before, but my response is: Marriage isn't something invented by Christianity and it isn't only a religious ceremony. Almost every other religion conducts marriage ceremonies, and they're just as valid as yours. Additionally, millions of people get married in civil ceremonies conducted by a judge or some other official. These are legally just as valid to religious marriages and are treated identically. When it comes to gay marriage, there's no legal or rational reason why they shouldn't be legal. Nobody wants to force your church to do it! (Why would a gay person even want to get married in a church which despises them?) I'm sorry you have so much bitterness and hatred within you. It must be very stressful. If you want to live easier and calmer, just try to judge others so much. Let people live their own lives, and stop spending so much effort trying to prevent others from enjoying the rights you enjoy. You'll be happier.

CharlesR1980 - 3/17/2009 10:32 PM
Guitarpicker, Please alert me to one situation in which it was ILLEGAL for any conservative or Christian to say what they wanted to say. Liberals disagreeing with your message is a matter of debate and discussion, not censorship. No real liberal would ever want your message to be legally censored in any way. Say what you want to say, but we obviously have a right to vocally disagree! As far as Islam, what I meant was Islam does not have any large influence over our culture as a whole. 9/11 is a result of decades of misguided US foreign policy, and while the terrorists are reprehensible you can't blame the religion of Islam as a whole. The vast majority of Muslims have no terrorist connections, obviously! We live in a country where Christianity is a majority religion, and where Christian interest groups constantly attempt to influence our laws and culture. Their goals tend to conflict with liberal goals, and that's why you'll see liberals speak out against them more often. When there is a Muslim group that spends thousands of dollars on trying to stop gay people from getting married, I'll be the first to protest them too. It's not the religion itself we're opposed to, it's the social agenda that some members of a religion espouse. Hope that made sense. Regardless of all of this, if you watch a few episodes of Big Love I think you'd agree that the characters and their beliefs are not being mocked, but rather than the audience comes to sympathize with and root for them.

guitarpicker - 3/17/2009 9:46 PM
CharlesR1980: 1) There was no threat stated or implied in my personal boycott of HBO and Tom Hanks. Just a statement of my personal intentions. That's all I have control over. 2) As far as your statement "Furthermore, there is freedom of speech in this country."... it seems that more and more, there is only freedom of speech as long as intolerant liberals are doing the speaking. But let a conservative voice stand up for decency and see how much free speech there is. 3) By way of correction, I did not criticize Islam, I criticized the liberal media elite and Hollywood's hands-off approach to Islam, while ridiculing and desecrating mainstream Christian religions. And as for your statement "we don't live in a country where Islam has a large effect "...What??!?! I repeat What??!?! Does 9/11 ring any bells for you? Prophet: 1) I am truly sorry if you had a bad experience with a church council. I believe that to be the exception, not the rule. 2) No, I will not discuss what HBO got wrong in the temple ceremony. I do hold some things sacred. 3) As for "Joseph Smith stole the temple ceremony from the Masons"...Did you ever stop and wonder where the Masons got it? Oh yeah, from Solomon's...Temple. That's their story, not mine. They were masonry workers on Solomon's temple. Food for thought.

jughhorgan - 3/17/2009 8:08 PM
Hey dragon--it's all over in 2012 anyway. And unless the gays are personally attacking you or breaking into your house, why don't you stop getting your panties in a bunch and let whatever god you believe in worry about the gays. After all, didn't he/she/it "create" the gays in the first place? You should worry about not being abducted by a reticulan, and let god worry about the gays.
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